嵌入式之路
发表于 2024-9-8 18:37:53
不知道这样危险不危险
cdpzq
发表于 2024-9-8 20:24:23
危不危险看用在哪里, 摸不到的地方就不危险, 如果摸到串电阻一端电不死, 插头一反就看运气.主要还是看元件选择, 元件耐压散热留比大的余地的话, 也考虑了电网异常的保护情况 , 那也算可靠的.只不过空间体积, 发热, 安全都要万分注意, 元件选择没问题了, 成本也上去了.电阻几W的功耗都可以烤灭蚊片了.
cdpzq
发表于 2024-9-8 20:55:00
水泥电阻便宜10W的几毛钱, 具体用几W的可以试验下, 看那种温度可以接受.
晓飛飛
发表于 2024-9-8 21:28:29
liuzonggong 发表于 2024-9-8 18:32
用100K,才3毫安,单片机启动不了,用20毫安电流的话,电阻必须分开才行要不就要用个大的水泥电阻,一个电 ...
啥单片机需要20mA才能启动嘛
liuzonggong
发表于 2024-9-8 21:51:40
晓飛飛 发表于 2024-9-8 21:28
啥单片机需要20mA才能启动嘛
既然设计电源就一步到位,直接当供电使了,以后单片机运行不超过20ma就行了。是在不行换2W的电阻。
晓飛飛
发表于 2024-9-9 00:03:26
本帖最后由 晓飛飛 于 2024-9-9 00:11 编辑
liuzonggong 发表于 2024-9-8 21:51
既然设计电源就一步到位,直接当供电使了,以后单片机运行不超过20ma就行了。是在不行换2W的电阻。 ...
那最好用RC降压,20mA可以用334的CBB电容并1M电阻降压,成本5毛钱以内
讲究点呢,再加个1毛钱的高阻值的NTC,缓冲一下上电浪涌电流,那就万无一失了。
cdpzq
发表于 2024-9-9 03:28:29
实际工程中, 小功率大量用的都是阻容降压. 纯电阻的很少, 除非是驱动一个发光管, 或光耦那种很小电流的. 纯电阻的比阻容最大问题就是发热. 放在产品里发热太大感觉不好. 要是不在乎发热, 2种就看成本问题了.
jmg
发表于 2024-9-9 03:36:57
本帖最后由 jmg 于 2024-9-9 05:03 编辑
liuzonggong 发表于 2024-9-8 15:51
My MCU need about 10mA,for theorther applications that I have not thought about . I think that ,2 ...
10mA is very high for resistive dropper. It will be over 3W on your numbers and 20mA is over 6W !!
That is a lot of heat to remove from any PCB and housing.
You are better to use a R+CAP dropper as above, or even an active on-the-slopes pulse design.
10mA is also very high for a MCU startup, you should work to reduce that.
Does anyone know what a STC MCU part current drain waveform looks like at startup ?
Not many vendors specify reset / starting current, but I've seen Microchip reports say Tiny13A ~ 230uA or AtMega16L ~ 3.6mA and Nuvoton MUG51 say < 200uA when RESET=LOW
liuzonggong
发表于 2024-9-9 07:15:41
本帖最后由 liuzonggong 于 2024-9-9 07:29 编辑
jmg 发表于 2024-9-9 03:36
10mA is very high for resistive dropper. It will be over 3W on your numbers and 20mA is over 6W !!
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The tick-tap pulse generator you introduced(dropper-regulator part like SS540S )is too expensive. The stc microcontroller, according to the official data, is within 10 mA / at 35 mhz. Plus I want to drive the circuit I want to drive the MOS tube, the consumption of the protection circuit, about 20 mA is enough, you said the Schottky voltage stabilization tube can work at less than 5 ma, I looked at the curve, it is best to let him consume 5 mA to stabilize. This will provide a minimum of 15 mA.
liuzonggong
发表于 2024-9-9 07:17:13
晓飛飛 发表于 2024-9-9 00:03
那最好用RC降压,20mA可以用334的CBB电容并1M电阻降压,成本5毛钱以内
讲究点呢,再加个1毛钱的高阻值的N ...
我想从主电路的直流331V直接取电。整流滤波,交给主电路就行。
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